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Real quick, the idea is to dismantle Beiteynu in the most permanent way and change the narrative to Amudim. It's a union. The focus will be to establish each city state as its own pseudo country held together by paperwork, history and the Neset.
@Mbites got any particular needs/goals with Himmelshtern? (i.e. you wanna keep its navy to keep amplfying N&D's navy?)
@Nick, I assume for Sholemberg is to keep riding the wave with our gang and the Goldbloom politics once in a while, right?
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Sholemberg wants to maintain its internationalism to preserve its HUGE network, and yes, Goldblooms basically dominate politics and the media (and food).
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(20-01-2025, 12:06 AM)TheNick Wrote: Sholemberg wants to maintain its internationalism to preserve its HUGE network, and yes, Goldblooms basically dominate politics and the media (and food).
ok, so basically Sholemberg will remain an integral cog of the Neset
and we keep using that city state as a way to cooperate with other players/nations/diaspora if folks need something
fancy doing a few relevant diplo moves we have open? i.e. with Kalistan/Doc to re-establish relations - but not with Beiteynu this time, that's key
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Re-opening them with the city of Sholemberg only then?
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(20-01-2025, 02:01 PM)TheNick Wrote: Re-opening them with the city of Sholemberg only then?
yup, in a "we're not beiteynu" approach
we've got the following pending
- Kundrati/Dredd
- Kalistan/Doc
- Lodamun/Imp (this might be deflected to Himmelshtern and Mbites)
- Mordusia/Bradley
- Trigunia/Svet
- ?
might be worth poking them and ask them what they want to achieve with the new "beiteynu"
i'm aware all of them want to maintain ties with diaspora
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(20-01-2025, 02:55 PM)GreekIdiot Wrote: (20-01-2025, 02:01 PM)TheNick Wrote: Re-opening them with the city of Sholemberg only then?
yup, in a "we're not beiteynu" approach
we've got the following pending
- Kundrati/Dredd
- Kalistan/Doc
- Lodamun/Imp (this might be deflected to Himmelshtern and Mbites)
- Mordusia/Bradley
- Trigunia/Svet
- ?
might be worth poking them and ask them what they want to achieve with the new "beiteynu"
i'm aware all of them want to maintain ties with diaspora
Sounds good then! Although it may be wise for Sholemberg contacting only one between Kalistan and Kundrati, due to their ideological differences.
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Think only Yishelem would speak with Kundrati atm. So Sholemberg should go to Kalistan.
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(20-01-2025, 12:03 AM)GreekIdiot Wrote: Real quick, the idea is to dismantle Beiteynu in the most permanent way and change the narrative to Amudim. It's a union. The focus will be to establish each city state as its own pseudo country held together by paperwork, history and the Neset.
@Mbites got any particular needs/goals with Himmelshtern? (i.e. you wanna keep its navy to keep amplfying N&D's navy?)
@Nick, I assume for Sholemberg is to keep riding the wave with our gang and the Goldbloom politics once in a while, right?
Not really, i am gonna explore its place in a political arc and go for consequences in the near future;
we're probably gonna not keep the whole navy because too expensive, not sure yet, why?
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(20-01-2025, 10:45 PM)Mbites Wrote: (20-01-2025, 12:03 AM)GreekIdiot Wrote: Real quick, the idea is to dismantle Beiteynu in the most permanent way and change the narrative to Amudim. It's a union. The focus will be to establish each city state as its own pseudo country held together by paperwork, history and the Neset.
@Mbites got any particular needs/goals with Himmelshtern? (i.e. you wanna keep its navy to keep amplfying N&D's navy?)
@Nick, I assume for Sholemberg is to keep riding the wave with our gang and the Goldbloom politics once in a while, right?
Not really, i am gonna explore its place in a political arc and go for consequences in the near future;
we're probably gonna not keep the whole navy because too expensive, not sure yet, why?
that's totally fine. guess you and me keep rolling with the punches as we progress a clear narrative of Himmelshtern's alignment more to pragmatic commerce and trade centric diplomacy akin to N&D.
on navy, well; to put it bluntly, i just want to have ships around (fitting to B's specialisation of going around indirect about it) for geopolitical opportunities in the future. it's the only military-related thing i find remotely fun lol
maybe we'll spread the ships or have the union pay for Himmelshtern to protect them or something
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(20-01-2025, 11:37 PM)GreekIdiot Wrote: (20-01-2025, 10:45 PM)Mbites Wrote: (20-01-2025, 12:03 AM)GreekIdiot Wrote: Real quick, the idea is to dismantle Beiteynu in the most permanent way and change the narrative to Amudim. It's a union. The focus will be to establish each city state as its own pseudo country held together by paperwork, history and the Neset.
@Mbites got any particular needs/goals with Himmelshtern? (i.e. you wanna keep its navy to keep amplfying N&D's navy?)
@Nick, I assume for Sholemberg is to keep riding the wave with our gang and the Goldbloom politics once in a while, right?
Not really, i am gonna explore its place in a political arc and go for consequences in the near future;
we're probably gonna not keep the whole navy because too expensive, not sure yet, why?
that's totally fine. guess you and me keep rolling with the punches as we progress a clear narrative of Himmelshtern's alignment more to pragmatic commerce and trade centric diplomacy akin to N&D.
on navy, well; to put it bluntly, i just want to have ships around (fitting to B's specialisation of going around indirect about it) for geopolitical opportunities in the future. it's the only military-related thing i find remotely fun lol
maybe we'll spread the ships or have the union pay for Himmelshtern to protect them or something
well, I just annexed himmelshtern, so it's really dependent on ND's diplomacy? Idk, last time you told me that i can do with it what i want lol, so what ideas were you having specifically?
Well obviously himmelshtern's gonna have something docked there considering that the sovereign territory of ND is now bigger we are gonna have to maintain a garrison.
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